makka
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I bought a Tom Tom One V3 'cos it's finally cheap enough to make it worthwhile to me.
My question is does anyone have any tips how to connect it to the battery? (It has a cable that goes into a cig lighter socket)
There isn't an accessory cable that fits that I can find but a guy in Bike mag managed to do it so it must be possible.
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makka
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AndyCBR
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Motor accesory shops usually sell cigarette lighter sockets that you could maybe mount under the seat, or the aus equivalent of Maplins will sell you a jack that would go in the back although i think tom toms use a usb lead to charge? Or you could butcher a universal type charger or buy another tom tom lead chop the cigarette plug off stick a fuse and/or a switch and permanetntly wire it to the battery
Hope that gives you some ideas
Andy
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FastBikerBoy
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As AndyCBR said. I had a mobile phone a couple of years ago that would only last a day max so I wired in a cigarette lighter style socket and gaffa taped it on the inner underside of the nose fairing of my then SV1000s. Most car accessory shops sell them.
I wired it to the battery with an inline switch at the socket end to turn it on & off, but many bikes have a spare fuse and switch area where you could rig it up to turn on & off with the ignition if you feel so inclined. I just couldn't be bothered but it is doable.
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Biggles
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as above, I would butcher/customise the cigar lighter cable it came with.
two things to keep it all minimal.
1 the earth side can be connected to the frame-so a very short run of two wires needed.
2 the draw from the sat nav is very minimal, so you could hook into the live side of the headlight (if it is normally on) circuit or similar rather than running a live all the way from the battery.
either way, it is *very* important to include a low amp fuse as near the join to the power source as possible so that if a short occurs the small fuse blows rather than starting a small fire 
bearing in mind the humidity of your clime, soldering the joins and using shrink wrap to insulate them is a good idea.
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AndyCBR
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I'm not sure if Aprillia use Canbus electrics, which to my Laymans knowledge is esentially digital Electrics where everything! is controlled by relays, I would not cut into anything with electrics like that!
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Biggles
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Ooooooooops! 
Wires from the battery then. What a bore.
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makka
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Thanks Guys.
I don't trust myself with any electrical business.
Stuck my fingers in the mains too often as a kid I reckon.
I've bought a USB to battery connector from Powerlet.
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makka
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Biggles
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BTW my (now ancient) TomTom One's internal battery lasts for about five+ hours, so I have not needed to charge it on the move.
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shinybusa
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Call me old fashioned, but what's wrong with having a map in the tankbag, a compass to orientate the map to the ground....and planning a route....simple! I don't have a GPS yet still go all over the place just using a map (of the relevant bit of real estate of course)... 
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makka
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Too late. It's purchased now. But I'm heading up north after the next MotoGP so will probably be going for longer.
I guess I could turn it on and off but I would anyway have to have a home charger so....
Great aren't they?
I always thought that if you can use a map why bother but then I borrowed one in Canberra and loved not having to think about how to get there or rely on the wife and thereby get into arguments.
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makka
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shinybusa
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I ride the bike , she sits on the back...map is front of me and if I have to stop......it's to stretch my legs (and figure out which turning I missed...all part of the fun!)
And the batteries won't run out on a map..Fablon it to waterproof the thing and you can plan your route by mileage.... by marking it out on the map, a bit rough n ready but it works, South Wales to Mevagissey in Cornwall and I missed one turn, which lead to a superb road luckily....GPS has it's uses granted, I'll stick to maps ta!
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chappers
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I ride the bike , she sits on the back...map is front of me and if I have to stop......it's to stretch my legs (and figure out which turning I missed...all part of the fun!)
And the batteries won't run out on a map..Fablon it to waterproof the thing and you can plan your route by mileage.... by marking it out on the map, a bit rough n ready but it works, South Wales to Mevagissey in Cornwall and I missed one turn, which lead to a superb road luckily....GPS has it's uses granted, I'll stick to maps ta! <img src="http://www.superbike.co.uk/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
I'm with shiny on this, and while we are at it whats wrong with a bit of flint and Iron pyrite for making fire eh never runs out of gas nor won't strike if it's wet, half the fun of making a fire is striking the bits of stone endlessly and blowing on tinder whilst your freezing your nuts off, Goddam bunch of slack jawed faggots.  
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xxrider
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Not often I agree with Shiny......
I can never, ever get in a car or on my bike without knowing where I'm going, and how to get there. I'll mentally list the towns I have to go through/bypass, and an idea of the road numbers I'll be using, and then I just use road signs if I'm unsure.
It's never failed yet! In fact.........
At the risk of "doing a Ken" (ie going on a bit - sorry Ken) I recently drove from Cambridge to Oswestry, in someone else's car, using satnav. I'd been asked to drive at the last minute, and only had the roughest idea where I was going - surely an ideal satnav scenario, right?
Bollocks! I hated not knowing where I was going, hated that bloody "prepare to turn left in 200 meters" voice, hated that it went silent at several critical junctions, hated that it fell off it's mounting at the M6 toll, and again a mile later, and then again..... hated the fact that it kept telling me to do a u-turn on the M6, hated the fact that it took so long to recalculate a route when I went wrong that I'd already missed several perfectly good turnings that headed (it turned out) just where I wanted to go!
I ended up ignoring the bloody thing. Until it told me that I'd arrived at my destination when I was stuck in traffic on a small country lane somewhere just off the M54! Then, I'm afraid, I swore at it.
The ONLY thing it was good for? It bleeped 200m before every speed camera - even a couple of mobile ones!
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big_al
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i'm gonna sit on the fence with this one.
i love SATNAV, its one of the best pieces of kit i've ever bought. Last year i drove back to the uk about three times, each time to a place i'd never been before and it was a wieght off my mind being able to rely on the satnav to tell me which way to go. Each time was about a 7/8 hour journey and it was a lot easier with technology to guide the way.
However, before i start each journey, i still look at the map to get an idea of where i'm going, and if its a cross-continental journey then i list all the major towns that i'll travel through. That way if the satnav goes tits up for what ever reason, i can still navigate the old fasioned way. The first time i drove to Germany i thought it would be a nightmare but it was pretty easy, just headed for the next major town on my route using the road signs and bobs yer uncle!
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chappers
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The advantage i see in sat nav is when in a strange town and you have to negotiate a rabbit warren of one way streets and multi lane junctions to find some obscure address, like last Tuesday when I bought the new family juggernaut.
but traveling from town to town it's not much help. The advantages IMO are convenience and not having to carry a library of OS route map books in your boot. I will add sat nav has helped to free up my MRS as she was always nervous of driving long distances with out someone to map read for fear of getting lost but with sat nav she's driven all over the country.
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xxrider
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I will add sat nav has helped to free up my MRS as she was always nervous of driving long distances with out someone to map read for fear of getting lost but with sat nav she's driven all over the country.
That's a very good point. Just spoke to my wife, and she's said she'd be far more confident if we had one. So I guess that's decision made, then.............
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makka
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and the Tom Tom One is at a price that makes them seem to be worth the money (to me).
I guess there are other cheapies out there but here the Tom Tom came with the latest map upgrade ($160 to buy) which sold it for me.
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makka
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Well, maybe meditation helps too.
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shinybusa
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Don't get me wrong, GPS does have a place, it can be a really useful bit of kit...but it's electronic and you can guarantee it will break down when you need it most. Sods Law!
If I was to use it, and I probably will in the future, I would still have a good old fashioned map as back up just to be on the safe side.
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NuTTs
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On my GS1200 I had it installed directly to the battery to keep the accessory socket free for.. errr.. well I don´t know what yet. I use the BMW Nav III - same as the Garmin street pilot. The ZUMO is also ace. A friend has the TomTom on his Busa but the cradle has been giving him gyp after a couple year´s use.
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Biggles
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I will add sat nav has helped to free up my MRS as she was always nervous of driving long distances with out someone to map read for fear of getting lost but with sat nav she's driven all over the country.
That's a very good point. Just spoke to my wife, and she's said she'd be far more confident if we had one. So I guess that's decision made, then.............
exact same for Mrs Biggles-she spent 10 years driving in LA and didn't feel at all confident on long distances when she came back to the UK and would make very long complex notes before journeys. Now she goes just about anywhere knowing that she is never "lost".
I am thinking of upgrading to a Garmen as some can *record* where you have been. I really like riding in in the general direction of my destination and choose what look like promising A and B roads.
With the Garmen I can then record the good routes and not spend ages trying to work it out afterwards.
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