Baggaley90
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Reged: 11/03/2008
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i've recently binned my CBR125 down a steep bank. A car stopped suddenly and i jammed the front brakes on ... bad mistake. i went completely over the handle bars and now i have snapped my wrist all the way across and also chipped a bit of bone from my knee which has taken the ligament with it. the bike is "ok" apparently ... not seen it yet but i hope it's ok. I was reading an article about how most crashes occur and it said braking and cornering. well it's got to be true. And also the CBT sucks they don't teach you anything. the fastest emergency stop was at about 10Mph and that just doesnt cut it. i thought at the time it was great that i could pass it with ease and that there is nothing to it. But now i have crashed due to lack of skill and knowledge i really think they should make it more difficult. I'll get some pics up soon peeps.
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chappers
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The wrist and knee break should heal fine it's the scaphoid that's a bugger when it goes.
Hindsight is a powerful weapon what is useful is an empty car and plenty of practise is a good way forwards or advanced training.
At least you are fine which is the important thing.
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Baggaley90
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chappers
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Nice white box with an X in it.
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Baggaley90
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A couple of piccies:
Pic 1
Pic 2
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chappers
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Bit of gaffer tape and she's good to go.
Of coruse the lesson for toady is leave yourself plenty of room to stop and familiarise yourself with the bikes performance paremeters.
Edited by chappers (17/05/2008 18:53)
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xxrider
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the lesson for toady is......
That's not nice! So the lad made a mistake - no need to call him toady......
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FastBikerBoy
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A bit late I know but as chappers said find you and your bikes performance parameters, especially the front brake. It's always worth finding a quite piece of road or a supermarket car park to practice.
Start from a slow speed and build up. Don't just grab a handfull of brake though, it's more about applying the brake swiftly and smoothly until you find the point at which the wheel is about to lock. That will take trial and error though and each bike is different. You're bound to lock the wheel when you first start so be ready to release the brake swiftly when you do or you'll be off again.
Once you've got your optimum braking pressure sorted so it's more feel than thinking about it. Start to build up your speed a bit at a time and don't do anything you're not comfortable with. Eventually you should be able to brake and stop quickly from quite a high speed.
Once you've mastered that then you want to do the same thing on a wet day, but remember there will be less grip so the wheel will lock much more readily.
The point is you're getting the 'feel' for the brakes and amount of grip you have. Then when you have to do it for real you'll stand a much better chance of stopping. Of course the real secret is not getting into the position of needing to stop that fast in the first place, but there will always be times when you need too no matter how good you get at reading other road users, surfaces, conditions, etc.
Practice makes perfect as they say...
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chappers
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the lesson for toady is......
That's not nice! So the lad made a mistake - no need to call him toady......
I'm no better seem to remember I stoppied into the back of a car a few months back.  guess that makes me a toady too. 
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shinybusa
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Even the best of us get it wrong sometimes, Chappers on a ZX6 , Baggaley on a 125. Me on a Hayabusa....all comes down to experience, if we learn from our mistakes then it's OK.......If we keep making the same mistake then natural selection will come into play!!!!!
We've all fallen/been knocked off, part of biking I suppose,  Just get up and get back on, after battering the myopic twat who's just side swiped you of course. 
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Baggaley90
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Just got out my casts  got a knee brace on for 6 weeks now  and No muscle in my leg. gonna need a lot of physio.
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chappers
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All easy from here on build up your muscles easy.
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shinybusa
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Glad your out of the cast...good luck mate, get yourself back on 2 wheels ASAP.
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madmandan
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yea ive been in the back of a van to i like crashing  ask fast jonny he likes laughing 
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Baggaley90
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cheers  i should be back on as soon as the brace comes off. so the doc says.
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Baggaley90
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out of the leg brace woop!!! now i just have to wait two weeks till i'm allowed back on my bike .
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immy
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let us know when your on two wheels again so we can run for cover jus take it easy mate-lots of summers to go if the climate allows
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Phantombiker
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Funny you should say the scaphoid chappers, its an arse, i broke that a while back, what a bitch of a small fracture, jesus, still gives me jip now.
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Phantombiker
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they only did an emergency stop at 10mph? mine was at 30mph and they complained if you did'nt stop quick and safe enough, or went to slow into it. I guess though having done a CBT just over a year ago, that they could be alot more in depth. its true ythey odnt show you alot, but that experience i worked up in no time, (averaged 200miles a week)
but yeah they best place is a clear carpark, then you can really learn how quick your bike can stop, how good your brakes are and such, i used my local Waitrose one. Also attempted a few stoppies and wheelies to see if i could get the back or the front up, nope, it stayed planted, thats a good thing, dont look very cool though.
keep at it mate, we all have to start somewhere, unfortunately crashing is all part of riding, it will happen.
good to hear your getting better now mate.
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