KennyP
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JP has been on the launch of the new bike (its on the home page people) and reckons the new bike is a bit better than the old one (which wasn't bad!). Question is - would you buy a Triumph over any of the big Four Japanese middleweights? Yes? No? Maybe? Depends on the price? Depends on the local dealer?
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chappers
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I'd rather chew through my right wrist. The finish on the last 675 was tacky IMO (although better than the RC8 I saw recently) and I'm not convinced about the reliability of the bikes.
I also think the bike looks like shit reminds me of one of those cheap chinese copys.
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BigHam
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I'm not a fan of the new grills over the ram air duct.
I don't think that Triumph has the resources to beat the japs at their own game. I think they need to look more at the premium market like Ducati and Aprilia tend to.
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Jon_Melson
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I'm not a Triumph fan either, but my Dad went over to Cartagena last week when the Italians were testing the 675's, and apparently people were crashing their brains out everywhere...
The mechanics were furiously bodging them back together just to try and keep the fleet on track.
Upon asking what happens to the bikes after, the respose was;
" They get taken back to the UK..... ..and crushed".
Ouch.
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Chez
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I don't think that Triumph has the resources to beat the japs at their own game..
The street triple is the best middleweight naked, beats any Jap offering in that sector..
The Daytona had some good results on the track this year too.
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KennyP
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The Daytona had some good results on the track this year too.
Yes indeed, like a British supersport championship, pole positions and race wins. British bike, British engine tuner and, er...Aussie riders!
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makka
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Aus. is still ruled by the Queen so they're still British really.
I love the 675 and look every week to see how it is doing in the Supersports.
IMO the only reason they are not doing better is that the Japanese build their bikes specifically with winning these races in mind whereas Triumph focus more on road use. Perhaps this time they have made a race bike for the road.
I have owned several Triumphs and they were 100% reliable until the local roads around here shook the Tiger to the point of breakdown. But it took much longer than they did to break my Aprilia.
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RevRun
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The Daytona had some good results on the track this year too.
Yes indeed, like a British supersport championship, pole positions and race wins. British bike, British engine tuner and, er...Aussie riders!
Kenny you forgot to mention the new factory on distant shores where a lot of the parts are made then boated over.
Would Triumph have the same surge in sales without the good race results ? That is what the Aussie did for them mind you Richards must qualify as a brit by now i would of thought.
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adowds
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Paul 'Youngy' Young has a British passport too I believe. Dual citizenship - so he's ours as well as theirs.
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daviebjk
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I had a honda 600rr and traded it 2years ago for a 675 and would not have any of the current jap 600s in front of it.I have done 8000mls and have had no problem and like every bike in this country unless you give it a wash now and again it will effect the finish.It handles well it has plenty of midrange and i dont need to constantly thrash it to get the best out of it.The bad points are the gearbox is a bit clunky and the riding position is not the most comfortable not helped by the seat.Would i reccomend it YES would i buy another probably not time for a change
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Stimroll
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I had a honda 600rr and traded it 2years ago for a 675 and would not have any of the current jap 600s in front of it.I have done 8000mls and have had no problem and like every bike in this country unless you give it a wash now and again it will effect the finish.It handles well it has plenty of midrange and i dont need to constantly thrash it to get the best out of it.The bad points are the gearbox is a bit clunky and the riding position is not the most comfortable not helped by the seat.Would i reccomend it YES would i buy another probably not time for a change
If they are so good why would you not buy another one? from what you said about it I wouldnt buy one!
I'll stick to my gixxer thanks 
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daviebjk
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Dont no about yourself but i like to try diffrent things and whats the point in buying the same bike i already have with a couple of tweaks now if they brought out a larger version i could be tempted As for your gsxr i have a few mates with them and they do like them but the finish is not any better than the triumphs as they say diffrent strokes for diffrent folks!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
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RevRun
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Paul 'Youngy' Young has a British passport too I believe. Dual citizenship - so he's ours as well as theirs.
Has Young had the same results as Richards ?
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chappers
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Paul 'Youngy' Young has a British passport too I believe. Dual citizenship - so he's ours as well as theirs.
Has Young had the same results as Richards ?
He's been instrumental in the development of the bike in the last couple of seasons. He's the guy who took the bike on before Triumph got involved and I think without his work the bike might not have done as well.
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adowds
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Youngy is also a Triumph factory test rider - so he spends thousands of hours on the bikes before they get launched. He was riding the 675 on roads and tracks and round Bruntingthorpe for 18 months or so before we all saw it. He said he was dead set on racing it from the very first time he rode it.
As Chappers says, he was the man who probably put most effort into getting one onto a BSS racetrack. We (I) did a feature on him a couple of years back, looking at how he developed the bike and the changes made.
He is also, incidentally, a top chap!
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RevRun
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Most teams have mant good people behind the scenes doing great work Young is one of them but things are measured on results and its the pilot with the twisty thing in his hand who takes it over the line,was it Bayliss who said last year on the 999 if you think its easy see how well it goes without me on it ?.
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dmx
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The finish on the triumph has long been rubbished. Rightly.
The bike looks sporty in a generic kind of way. Not exactly what sets the old pulse going.
The reliabilty thing - my opinion, where theres smoke, theres fire.
If the above reasons arent enough, theres always the image thing. I'll always associate Triumph with the bikes they built for my dad all those years ago. Oh, and the logo hasnt changed in all those years - thus it looks like something from when Churchill was smoking cigars and insulting ugly women.
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makka
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wrong,
wrong,
and wrong.
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xxrider
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I love a Triumph.
But then I'm over 40.....
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chappers
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I've had a life long disdain of Triumphs. I hated all the unit engines crap and unreliable only the pre units were any cop then the chassis were shite, I had a pre unit 6T in 82 and at anything approaching a ton the whole front end would shake back and forwards like a 90deg tank slapper, in hindsight I'm guessing the fork bushes must have been knackered fucking pile of shit. Gimme a Commando any day of the week, at least it was only the back end that waved around (isolastics crap idea).
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