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fast bikes had a 2007 600s test I guessed the out come before I opened the mag. Oh I must be psychic (Yawn) and I spent £3.99 to be called a "pub poser" way to go boys that will double your circulation what does that make the poor c**t that won the R6 that they ran a comp for.
I tried to read the GSXR test but couldn't get past the BS about JW riding 10/10 everywhere and the patronising way that they suggest that FB readers will only be using the A&B powersetting as c is for wimps.

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No polemic. Comment is free.
Whatever you tried to send didn't come through. Use my email why dontcha?

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Ah, the PM system does appear to be broken...

Bugger!

Expect an email when I have time to pull one together :-).

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"Ride what you like, how you like, as often as you like; but always take responsibilty for your actions." - Anonymous Zen Guru

"Obviously all I'll care about is if it's good for wheelies (i.e. fluffs up my meagre skills), and what free gift they give on the launch." - Anonymous Moto-Journalism Guru

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R6 4TH...ZX6R 1ST....INTERESTING not taking anything away from the kwak lads just didnt expect it to win the test!

Get SB on it...come on boys wheres the REAL 600 test?

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Kwak 1st, Honda 2nd, Suzi 3rd, R6 4th, triumpth 5th both R6 and 675 took a right slagging when at the start of last year they were singing their praises theres consitency for ya. Kenny LMAO so true and I rember the episode.

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Fast bikes - Max Power for bikers, written mostly by a tit, some good freebies

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swap the word bike for car and I think you may've found their sister publication even the tec section is uncanily similar FC have a Model in a nurses ubiform FB have a model in overalls.
Jamie can you please invent some better questions for Andy Ibbot to answer I ask you how seriously can you take a statement like I'd like to get my knee down in the wet like I saw Jay do in masterclass last month. (not a direct quote but thats the gist something tells me they read this forum). The silly thing is Andy Ibbot answered it rather than advising the guy to get a life. Andy you have a serious role running the california Superbike school this just demeans you.
Then there is Vertical Vincent Who altho is faster than his mates is always having the piss taken for riding verticaly does he mean like the great Mike Hailwood or does he have chicken strips the size of Rocket Ron Haslams sideburns so they advise him on a "Good looking position" using, guess who Jay to demonstrate elbow down on a R6 albeit with 209gp tyres by the look of the tread, checking his reflection in the mirror. OOPS sorry when I get a bee in my bonnet I can't help myself. Jamie why don't you just send me an email so we can meet and I can smack you in the mouth that should get it out my system cos you really get my goat if you were any further up your own ass you'd be your throat.


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Edited by chappers (16/03/2007 20:41)

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OK, I'm showing my age and maybe well out of line and/or order. But decades ago there was an episode of 'the Goodies' where members of the Monty Python team appeared out of a magic lamp and shouted 'Kids programme!' at the poor cuddly Goodies and then vanished. Well, I'm saying FB is a kids mag. Ya boo! So there, etc, etc...

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Right, in the spirit of research, I've just been down to the petrol station and soiled meself by buying a copy of Farty Bollocks. It's yet another boil-in-the-bag edition with a freebie FB-branded Oxford summer neckwarmer thingy in the bag.

First thing is, they have an ABC. Moby is crowing about it all over his editorial skit. And disturbingly, quite a lot of readers. 30,000 odd. More than I thought. A quick trip to the ABC webshite says that that is versus 50,000 of yours. Although apparently you are 9% down over last year, and PB is currently still plummetting at 18% down, which surprised me - ABC there now 35,000 odd and in free fall. So that another makeover that has completely failed, then. Every re-branding exercise so far has generated a further decline, and midlife-crisis-monthly is continuing the trend.

Anyway, somebody is reading FB. The paper is too shiny to want to wipe your arse with it, and sticker sheets only take a magazine so far. OK, 25% less people read FB than read 'Classic Bike' maybe, but perhaps there is something worth reading in there after all? And perhaps, given my general disdain for their output, it deserves a bit of more detailed analysis?

So lets look.

OK, up front after Moby's rather creatively and unjustifiably smug editorial ("I edit the nations least read national motorcycle magazine" is what he should have said), there are a few 'News' pages (i.e. recycled press releases), and then four pages of 'Products', which appear to have no journalistic content whatsoever but appear to be 'Pictures of the expensive stuff we've blagged this month, with captions lifted verbatim from the press pack'.

Nothing worth reading yet, then.

Letters page, with gratuitous 'readers wives' style pictures. Mmm. Not loving it so far.

Then there's 29 pages of reviews and group tests (plus a few pages of ads), of which 24 are splattered with various often self-aggrandising pronouncements by Jamie Wilkins. So Sprinkled with gratuitous sexism and casual homophobia. Mmmm. 30,000 people read this ignorant shite?

Of the five JW free pages, two are a write up on the Bandit 1250 launch, which is OK but too short and not as good as the write-ups I've read in the other mags, and the art editor's write-up on the BMW X-series launch on the other three. Which is actually pretty good. So he won't last long, then. It comes to something when the best road test in the mag is written by the graphic designer!

Then we have 5 pages of pictures laced with a few ill-chosen words from that man again (JW), then 3 pages of 'Used Guide' on the Daytona 650, which is OK. If you are looking specifically for a Daytona 650. Otherwise, fairly pointless.

Ooh, and now we have the gratuitous tits-out centrefold. Mmm. So far it is mostly bollocks...


And then we have the Masterclass sections. These are great! Andy Ibbott is wasted in this issue, answering fcuking dumb questions from morons, but the last issue I saw, he was answering half sensible machine control questions that a lot of people might have asked.

Superbike could learn from this for its real world section. Get yourself a track riding guru. You want Rocket Ron or Fearless on the payroll. Or Jezza, now that Ilmor has folded its tent. Just don't ask him bone questions.

And while I'm at it, you should get a road riding guru. The '7 Deadly Bins' article was a great idea, but I bet you've had letters pointing out where it should have been better. Try and get somebody who knows WTF they are talking about but who doesn't ride a K75 or wear a Sam Browne...

Then they have a Staff Bikes section. Moby demonstrates himself to be a knob, JW is JW, etc. Superbike does it better.

Now there's a race section, with good quality racer columnists, intelligent race news and an unfortunate but good bought in article on the Ilmor bike/team. This bit beats Superbike hands down.

And then there's Stavros's column. Which is brilliant. Rather like Jim Whithams column in TWO, but in black and white.

So, mostly shite, with just a couple of highlights that you should plagiarise mercilessly. After all, they seem to have ripped off most of your format, all be it mostly very badly.

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http://www.cix.co.uk/~kwh

"Ride what you like, how you like, as often as you like; but always take responsibilty for your actions." - Anonymous Zen Guru

"Obviously all I'll care about is if it's good for wheelies (i.e. fluffs up my meagre skills), and what free gift they give on the launch." - Anonymous Moto-Journalism Guru




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OK, I'm showing my age and maybe well out of line and/or order. But decades ago there was an episode of 'the Goodies' where members of the Monty Python team appeared out of a magic lamp and shouted 'Kids programme!' at the poor cuddly Goodies and then vanished. Well, I'm saying FB is a kids mag. Ya boo! So there, etc, etc...

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Right, in the spirit of research, I've just been down to the petrol station and soiled meself by buying a copy of Farty Bollocks. It's yet another boil-in-the-bag edition with a freebie FB-branded Oxford summer neckwarmer thingy in the bag.

First thing is, they have an ABC. Moby is crowing about it all over his editorial skit. And disturbingly, quite a lot of readers. 30,000 odd. More than I thought. A quick trip to the ABC webshite says that that is versus 50,000 of yours. Although apparently you are 9% down over last year, and PB is currently still plummetting at 18% down, which surprised me - ABC there now 35,000 odd and in free fall. So that another makeover that has completely failed, then. Every re-branding exercise so far has generated a further decline, and midlife-crisis-monthly is continuing the trend.

Anyway, somebody is reading FB. The paper is too shiny to want to wipe your arse with it, and sticker sheets only take a magazine so far. OK, 25% less people read FB than read 'Classic Bike' maybe, but perhaps there is something worth reading in there after all? And perhaps, given my general disdain for their output, it deserves a bit of more detailed analysis?

So lets look.

OK, up front after Moby's rather creatively and unjustifiably smug editorial ("I edit the nations least read national motorcycle magazine" is what he should have said), there are a few 'News' pages (i.e. recycled press releases), and then four pages of 'Products', which appear to have no journalistic content whatsoever but appear to be 'Pictures of the expensive stuff we've blagged this month, with captions lifted verbatim from the press pack'.

Nothing worth reading yet, then.

Letters page, with gratuitous 'readers wives' style pictures. Mmm. Not loving it so far.

Then there's 29 pages of reviews and group tests (plus a few pages of ads), of which 24 are splattered with various often self-aggrandising pronouncements by Jamie Wilkins. So Sprinkled with gratuitous sexism and casual homophobia. Mmmm. 30,000 people read this ignorant shite?

Of the five JW free pages, two are a write up on the Bandit 1250 launch, which is OK but too short and not as good as the write-ups I've read in the other mags, and the art editor's write-up on the BMW X-series launch on the other three. Which is actually pretty good. So he won't last long, then. It comes to something when the best road test in the mag is written by the graphic designer!

Then we have 5 pages of pictures laced with a few ill-chosen words from that man again (JW), then 3 pages of 'Used Guide' on the Daytona 650, which is OK. If you are looking specifically for a Daytona 650. Otherwise, fairly pointless.

Ooh, and now we have the gratuitous tits-out centrefold. Mmm. So far it is mostly bollocks...


And then we have the Masterclass sections. These are great! Andy Ibbott is wasted in this issue, answering fcuking dumb questions from morons, but the last issue I saw, he was answering half sensible machine control questions that a lot of people might have asked.

Superbike could learn from this for its real world section. Get yourself a track riding guru. You want Rocket Ron or Fearless on the payroll. Or Jezza, now that Ilmor has folded its tent. Just don't ask him bone questions.

And while I'm at it, you should get a road riding guru. The '7 Deadly Bins' article was a great idea, but I bet you've had letters pointing out where it should have been better. Try and get somebody who knows WTF they are talking about but who doesn't ride a K75 or wear a Sam Browne...

Then they have a Staff Bikes section. Moby demonstrates himself to be a knob, JW is JW, etc. Superbike does it better.

Now there's a race section, with good quality racer columnists, intelligent race news and an unfortunate but good bought in article on the Ilmor bike/team. This bit beats Superbike hands down.

And then there's Stavros's column. Which is brilliant. Rather like Jim Whithams column in TWO, but in black and white.

So, mostly shite, with just a couple of highlights that you should plagiarise mercilessly. After all, they seem to have ripped off most of your format, all be it mostly very badly.

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Excellent and well analyzed.

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