Jon_Melson
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Sorry to keep asking numpty questions, but after the forum unanimously reccomending I get an RSV-R I've been scouring t'interweb.
I have seen an X reg RSV-R with just under 30,000 miles on it which seems acceptable for the year but still quite high for a sports bike.
I'm intending on putting a deposit on the bike tomorrow and then driving up mid-week to see it. Is the mileage ok, or should I walk away from it?
PS Is the R worth the extra over the standard RSV, and is the 2001-2002 bike much different from the 98-2000 bike?
Ta!
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manxnorton
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Provided a sportsbike is properly serviced, mileage should not be an issue;- look for either a paper history, or more importantly, obvious care such as correctly adjusted chain in good condition, unscored discs etc with some life left, well maintained suspension etc. and a lack of crash damage. Sportsbikes frequently show low mileages as many who buy them use them as "sunny Sunday posing toys". The bikes will go the distance, even if many owners can't.
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Jon_Melson
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Thanks for that.
I suppose I've always been spoilt before by having bikes under 10,000 miles....
..Just get complacent I suppose?
Anyone else wish to offer an opinion before I spend my hard earned?
Cheers!
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chappers
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how much is it? It wants to be bloddy cheap for that money IMO.
At those kind of milages shocks, fork bushes, wheel bearings head bearings may all be showing signs of significant wear and stuff like that can add up.
Best place to Ask for advice would be one of the Aprilia forums.
http://www.rsvzone.com/forums/
http://www.rsvr.net/
http://www.apriliaforum.com/forums/index.php
http://forums.clubaprilia.net/
ther may even be some for sale. Personally I wouldn't entertain a high milage bike too much of a lottery, after all there are loads to choose from.
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thetony
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All i'll add is emphasis that the early 'R' ohlins really do like to eat fork seals and remember that if you need pillion provision, the subframe aint rated for extra weight but the bike bizarrely came with pillion pad and passanger pegs to be fitted if you so wish!? Fuck that IMO.
You'll know yourself if you are likely to really ride hard enough to justify the flash suspension and actually require the vast range of adjustment?
The bike would have to be a S E R I O U S bargain with that mileage and be totally mint/with plenty toys too, to even be considered. There are shitloads of good examples of this bike.
If it's a red/black one with 'quite a variety' of exhausts included...It has been for sale for a looooooooooooong time. I looked at one with the same mileage in Spenders MC(for 3 grand) last summer, but decided against it due to the miles (mostly) and bought a private sale 2002 minter with 4150 miles for a couple of hundred quid more.
Happy hunting amigo.
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Jon_Melson
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It's up at £2,795, which I think is a good price for a 2000 RSV-R.
I do realise the mileage is steep though, and have recently been made aware of the sub-frame issue.
It seems that out of the factory they had a lighter, shorter sub-frame but the longer 'dual seat' subframe was an option. I assume this was stronger?
Back to the mileage issue, should I take a chance or walk away?
(If I walk I either need to look at a standard RSV for similar money, or front the extra cash for a later/lower mileage RSV-R)
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chappers
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Personally I'd walk whats the point of paying extra for spangly suspension if it's incapable of supporting a pair of knickers and you have to spend £X00 refreshing it.
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Jon_Melson
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That's fair enough Chappers, thanks.
I must admit I was put off by the hefty mileage, but it looked so pretty in the pictures!
Only snag now is that I need to find about another £800 to get the same thing with more sensible mileage....
Doh!
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thetony
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Offer him a cheeky £2.5k, Get the fucker clocked! Kid yerself on that every bush/bearing/cushdrive/disc/spring is healthy and break even when you punt it in a year having done zero maintenence to it!? Hehe. It is soo much bike for the money, you are basically paying full price for the wheels/forks and getting the rest chucked in for free...
Get a ride on a standard mille and see what you think, the basic suspension is fucking excellent anyway - ARE you honestlyreallygenuinely gonna fiddle and twiddle and IMPROVE the thing? Are you such a talented rider you are thinking about scrubbing tenths off your lap times? I don't know you John and you haven't said if it is a private/trade sale for starters, you haven't clarified the service history is satisfactory, we dunno if you want to keep this thing for a decade or shag it just for a summer or use it everyday? what you do with your bike is anyones guess. It is insane that people expect a 'silk purse' when buying a near ten year old superbike for under £3000...
Fuck it John. Try the cheeky offer and play hard ball till they accept. Spend the cash you saved on good tyres, shit loads of fuel (they are thirsty bastards) and a ticket to the northwest'! Happy days! Three thousand pounds wouldn't buy the misses a decent pair of tits for crying out loud - Buy the thing for two and a half and get her a wonderbra you tightwad! lol
Common sense is; buy a low mileage, clean later bike privately for the same money and have as much fun on a smarter bike. Do we have any common sense? Ever?
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Jon_Melson
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Loc: Essex
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Nah, I'm not Nori Haga but I do appreciate the quality of good suspension. I raced moto-x for 6 years on a mixture of 250 2 strokes and 450 4 strokes and in that time became a guru of damping and preload. Not a weekend went by when the tape measure didn't come out to check static sag!
I fancied the RSV-R because of the bling- I'm selling a mint 2007 R6 with 4500 miles and just wanted a bike I can still get a semi over on the occasional summer sunday.
I used to have a 750 Ducati Monster too, (first 'big' bike) and did have troubles with locking the back wheel sometimes during heavy braking. Thought the slipper clutch would be a big bonus.
Anyway, sense has prevailed and I've just put a deposit on a standard 2003 RSV (registered 04)with 12,000 miles on it.
Not as pretty, no sexy gold ohlins bits and more money but I've opted to go for head over heart.
I'm doing Mallory on May 15th so here's for hoping I don't regret the decision!
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thetony
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Nice one Jon, I'd be willing to bet that with your suspension endeavors you can get the thing handling as sweetly/better than a standard set-up 'R'... or on that basis a ohlins sprung bike set up by a clueless bell-end. That would make an interesting feature actually? Standard(but thoroughly well set up)998/999/RSV/'budget supension whatever' V's the nitride coated expensive option of the same bike...
A good revalve/internals kit/spring at the back can always come later if needs be. Make sure you get yourself a can though, Get it sounding like it should... Congrat's, Bet the summers looking a damn sight better now for you!? 
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