R1fletch
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Reged: 02/04/2008
Posts: 33
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Went out for a ride today,it was a good ride not much traffic etc realy enjoyed it except for the last leg on the way home.On a road I know well I came round a big left hand corner which then goes up a slight hill with a right hand corner on the brow of the hill.I come round the right hand corner and fuck me what greets me over the brow of the hill,Its Mr VW passat driver on my side of the road trying to over take not 1 but 2 cars infront of him.The driver shit himself locked up swerved back on to his side of the road and clipped the back of the first car he was trying to over take.I broke hard and flick left to right how the fuck we never had a head on I don't know.It's the closest near miss I've had in 16years of riding.What sort of cunt trys to over take two cars coming into a blind corner on the brow of a hill. 
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FastBikerBoy
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Reged: 08/11/2006
Posts: 1479
Loc: Norfolk, UK - Police State
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What sort of cunt trys to over take two cars coming into a blind corner on the brow of a hill.
Answer: Your average car driver.
At least you're okay, but I know what you mean you start running all the 'ifs' through your mind. A sad result of all the coppers being replaced by cameras is there's no fucker picking up all the shite driving that's going on on the roads. You know, twats on phones, roundabout cutting, turning right from the nearside lane of a roundabout, oh and cunts overtaking going up a blind hill.
Still cameras are saving lives ain't that right Mr. Law Enforcers so it's not all bad news. 
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R1fletch
newbie
Reged: 02/04/2008
Posts: 33
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The more I think about it the more it pisses me of,if that had been a newbie who'd just past his test he'd of probably snatched a hand full of front break and decked it and it would have been a totaly different out come,and not a good one.
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chappers
Carpal \'Tunnel
Reged: 31/12/2006
Posts: 6701
Loc: Mind your own business
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What sort of cunt trys to over take two cars coming into a blind corner on the brow of a hill.
One that could use a maglite wrapped around his cranium.
Glad you are OK.
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immy
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What sort of cunt trys to over take two cars coming into a blind corner on the brow of a hill.
The same ones who drive the politicians around. July 07 2 Goverment Guard Mercades Limosines were involved in an identical situation.One behind the other and overtaking a line of cars before a brow of a hill(and contrary to the solid white line system). Met a HGV grain carrier  The first Merc driver was mincemeat and the second was half mincemeat. Pity about the 3 cars they were overtaking-all got caught up. So in total 4 died and 2 seriously injured-oh the HGV driver was fine.
You were very lucky matey. As I approach a brow I always move towards the edge of the road-just in cases
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BlindLemonAde
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Reged: 19/08/2008
Posts: 68
Loc: Kent
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It's all going mad out there!
In the past couple of days, I've watched a van overtake a truck up a hill while crossing double white lines, and a nutter in a car dash out to overtake an HGV, only to have to dive back in again, when oncoming traffic emerged from a blind dip...
And I was nearly caught out by a slow-moving caravan which I was lining up to overtake, when he pulled out to pass the cyclist he was following.
My fault, that one... 
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shinybusa
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Reged: 08/01/2008
Posts: 1989
Loc: away with the fairies..
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And I was nearly caught out by a slow-moving caravan which I was lining up to overtake, when he pulled out to pass the cyclist he was following.
My fault, that one...
Put it down to experience eh????
No one's perfect...I have made a few glaringly dangerous decisions in my time..........haven't done it again though!!!!.....
Like leaning into a nice bend...only to find traffic backed up because of the traffic lights that had been put on the road....(NO WARNING SIGNS)..........Rear wheel locked ...skid.......up the outside of the car.....into the oncoming traffic............car coming at me stopped just in time ..........Popped my visor open and waved at the lady driver really sheepishly..........
Then pulled over and spewed my ring up it was that close!!!!!!!!!
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KwH
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Reged: 11/11/2006
Posts: 1896
Loc: Carmarthen, Dyfed
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On a road I know well I came round a big left hand corner which then goes up a slight hill with a right hand corner on the brow of the hill.I come round the right hand corner and fuck me what greets me over the brow of the hill,Its Mr VW passat driver on my side of the road trying to over take not 1 but 2 cars infront of him.
'Kinell!
You see, that's dangerous driving that is. Obviously. But then now I think about it he probably wasn't speeding, so that's all right after all...
If he hit another car when he pulled in, you could and probably (strictly speaking) legally should have stopped, resisted the temptation to beat the homicidal twat to death, called the old bill and then given them a statement. It would be the ultimate injustice if you get prosecuted for 'leaving the scene of an accident' after the car driver who almost killed you decides to blame the whole thing on you for riding a dangerous two-wheeled death machine on a road that he wanted to overtake on.
Immy called it right I think. Cross blind crests tucked in to the hedge, it's a good self-defence move. As per Mike Waite's infamous 'Picking Daisies'...
http://www.mikewaite.co.uk/factsheets/blind-summits-picking-daisies/
Worth watching just for the Brokeback Mountain soundtrack...
http://www.mikewaite.co.uk/video/free-video-extracts/blind-summits-high/
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http://www.cix.co.uk/~kwh
"Ride what you like, how you like, as often as you like; but always take responsibilty for your actions." - Anonymous Zen Guru
"Obviously all I'll care about is if it's good for wheelies (i.e. fluffs up my meagre skills), and what free gift they give on the launch." - Anonymous Moto-Journalism Guru
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makka
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Nice link.
Ta for that.
I watched all the free ones. Good stuff.
One thing he does that I don't is stay in the middle of the road with oncoming traffic. Perhaps it's just Australians but IMO people react badly (agressively) to perceived aggression so I give them more space.
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makka
It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.
J. Krishnamurti
Never confuse who you are with what you do.
Makka
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KwH
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 11/11/2006
Posts: 1896
Loc: Carmarthen, Dyfed
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Nice link.
Ta for that.
I watched all the free ones. Good stuff.
One thing he does that I don't is stay in the middle of the road with oncoming traffic. Perhaps it's just Australians but IMO people react badly (agressively) to perceived aggression so I give them more space.
Agree with that, it's something that some ex-plod class 1 instructors seem to blithely do that I think is a bit daft, and obviously comes from being used to riding about on a dayglo battenberg Pan European covered in blue flashing lights; maintain position up against the white line in the face of oncoming traffic. It always seems to me that you are begging for somebody coming the other to target fixate on you, drift slightly off line and straight into your face. Not to mention the fact that I want to be seen by the driver behind the one coming towards me, just in case the dozy prat pops out for a look ahead when I'm six feet away...
Personally, I drift left to open up a bit of space from any oncoming, and move back out again when it has passed...
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Ken Haylock
http://www.cix.co.uk/~kwh
"Ride what you like, how you like, as often as you like; but always take responsibilty for your actions." - Anonymous Zen Guru
"Obviously all I'll care about is if it's good for wheelies (i.e. fluffs up my meagre skills), and what free gift they give on the launch." - Anonymous Moto-Journalism Guru
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R1fletch
newbie
Reged: 02/04/2008
Posts: 33
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I was left of the centre maybe noy picking dasies but it's probably what saved me.As for stopping I'd probably be getting doe for GBH if I had.
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KwH
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Reged: 11/11/2006
Posts: 1896
Loc: Carmarthen, Dyfed
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I was left of the centre maybe noy picking dasies but it's probably what saved me.As for stopping I'd probably be getting doe for GBH if I had.
Yeah, you and me both. Although getting him banned for Dangerous Driving would be ultimately more satisfying and less likely to land me in prison myself. With you and the driver he hit both telling the same story, he'd be quite unlikely to be able to wriggle out of it!
It's true what they say about revenge being a dish best served cold...
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Ken Haylock
http://www.cix.co.uk/~kwh
"Ride what you like, how you like, as often as you like; but always take responsibilty for your actions." - Anonymous Zen Guru
"Obviously all I'll care about is if it's good for wheelies (i.e. fluffs up my meagre skills), and what free gift they give on the launch." - Anonymous Moto-Journalism Guru
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Biggles
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Reged: 05/05/2007
Posts: 3089
Loc: Orion arm of the milky way
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Come in late on this-very glad you are okay R1fletch. Really nasty sound close shave.
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There are several blind summits near me in Dorset, one of them has a cross road at the top! To my mind there is very little that makes this one safe as many folk pull out from the left.
The normal far left approach gives poor vis *of* them and *for* them. So for me that one has to be taken slowly, with great care.
In the 2nd picking daisies vid, there is a gap in the hedge with mud on the deck, obviously used by farmers-picking daisies there has a high risk of become a tractor ornament.
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Quote me as saying I was miss-quoted.
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makka
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Those damn medieval road designers eh?
My last accident in the car (a good while ago now) was having to pull out of a side road just over a blind crest. I had the added bonus of some idiots party balloons obscuring the view to help.
I went and "had a word"  afterwards.
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makka
It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.
J. Krishnamurti
Never confuse who you are with what you do.
Makka
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immy
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I dont know if any of you recall my "Favourite Route" which SB printed sometime in 2007(or 8) Anyway,what I neglected to mention about the route is the unique hazard that co-insides with the 5 or 6 "blind" hill-brows that have to be negotiated-and between April and October when the weather is warm
Hungary has a rather relaxed atitude towards the "ladies" who undertake the "oldest profession in the world" Any time between 9am and 7/8pm they can be seen by the side of main roads "waiting for a friend to pick them up" Unfortunately they are positioned normally in a field entrance(obviously) and the fuggin entrances are ALL on the bloody brows of the hills-so you have to slow right down just in case a customer is entering or exiting the field.So you have to know where the "ladies" are or likely to be. In 2006 a guy on a GSXR 1000, whilst on holiday in my part of the world,died after colliding with a pimps car that came out of a field. The rider didnt know there was a entrance to a field or expecting a car to pull out(ok he was going fast as well)
The other hazard these individuals cause and particually the ones on the straight parts of the road(YES-in a section of road between a village called "Som" and the next village 15 kms away there usually at least 7 or 8 ladies) they do like to flash at the bikers-so while your trying to concentrate on the road you get the "pleasing sight" of a pair of "spaniels ears" or plump hairy arse or hairy "front mouth" and its NOT a pleasent sight under no extreme circumstances could you ever say any of them are in the least bit attractive setting aside the fact that they are all Roma ladies who apparently have never heard of STDs and dont take any percautuions to boot. And according to one of our neighbours who is a Dr-nearly all of them are HIV positive- which is no surprise.
It therefore follows I take that route early Sat or Sun mornings to aviod them  How could you possible explain" Sorry Officer I was speeding to avoid a very hairy minge in my face" 
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shinybusa
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Reged: 08/01/2008
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Loc: away with the fairies..
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How could you possible explain" Sorry Officer I was speeding to avoid a very hairy minge in my face"
What an excuse though.......
I can imagine the copper either shaking your hand..or walking away shaking his head muttering things about deviant bikers...........
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FastBikerBoy
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Loc: Norfolk, UK - Police State
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How could you possible explain" Sorry Officer I was speeding to avoid a very hairy minge in my face"
to which the obvious follow on is.....
"but got caught by another c**t instead"
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shinybusa
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Reged: 08/01/2008
Posts: 1989
Loc: away with the fairies..
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How could you possible explain" Sorry Officer I was speeding to avoid a very hairy minge in my face"
to which the obvious follow on is.....
"but got caught by another c**t instead"
Nice one............
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chappers
Carpal \'Tunnel
Reged: 31/12/2006
Posts: 6701
Loc: Mind your own business
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Back on topic I have to be honest I've been thinking of Selling my road bike and just buying a decent MX bike.
I only seem to get to ride for a few hours at the weekend now and it's nearly always always stop start even on the routes I take. I aways used to enjoy my ride most when every flowed together. It also seems that there some moron pulling a stupid stunt somewhere or other.
I had some twat do a right on Sunday no warning drove along got to junction and bang on with the brakes and round with the wheel luckily I was holding back looking for an overtake after the turn.
I have considered just converting my bike to a trackbike but they are silly money to do a regular basis.
At least at an MX track I can get my kicks in realative saftey and I can get away with riding that would see me in an ambulance ona trackday.
Hopefuly I'll get over it as I always enjoyed riding on the road but if I'm honest been feeling quite vunerable recently.
OH and I'm already missing my CRF.
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thetony
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Bloody hell Chappers. Pep talk due!? You often strike me as being a thoroughly impulsive character half the time, but then you excel the rest of the time with yer very wise research into every detail/option before any remark, purchase, modification, move or god forbid mistake...You are an oxymoron! hehe
Please don't be making a knee-jerk reaction to a couple of frights and a bit of soulful thought, - You only just got the fuckin Aprilia, summer ain't even here yet and you admited yourself you've been a bit rusty. I've checked out your R6 vids on youtube and I don't think you should be without a road bike at the ready.
Mines is still off the road, to be sorn'd tomorrow. MOT and insurance are due up next month and I can see the bike going up for sale to pay some of the bills... It is driving me fucking insane not being able to use it. The fair weather boys are all starting to appear and asking about weekends away, blasts here and there, tent and a quarter of green this - tank of gas and a beer garden that, and I can't do it!!! Torture.
If you have a cunt of a day and need to blow the cobwebs away, loading up a crosser(and two little crossers an' all maybe?) then towing the bastard to a place (Yup with the kids, surely you aren't getting anywhere near a muddy track without the wee tearaways ever again now they haave their new toys!?) where you are met by umpteen ATVs, old boys on twin shock-shockers, and gypo scumbags trying to work out how to steal your nice kit. you'll be spannering for the boys and cheering them on proudly and your own crosser will hardly get a look in...
Maybe, I dunno. But a good few 'motocross dad' mates have big regrets about ditching their road bikes to do what you are thinking. They also blame it for their recent baldness, high blood pressure etc anyway there is a game on and my beer is getting warm. Good luck chappers.
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