Osvaldo46
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If anybody is condidering buying a new R1 but just hanging on for a bit......don't. From 1 May 2009 the price will rise by a grand. Got it straight from the horses mouth this afternoon. Thank feck I picked one up a few weeks ago. If your local dealer has one in stock, grab it. Yamaha are charging dealers the increased price on all models ordered. £10,999 from 1/5/09.
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manxnorton
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If anybody is condidering buying a new R1 but just hanging on for a bit......don't. From 1 May 2009 the price will rise by a grand. Got it straight from the horses mouth this afternoon. Thank feck I picked one up a few weeks ago. If your local dealer has one in stock, grab it. Yamaha are charging dealers the increased price on all models ordered. £10,999 from 1/5/09.
Seems like an attempt to re establish 1980s pricing;- I suggest we all stay away in droves, keep what we already have, there is, after all, little difference between bikes year on year, despite what the manufacturers and the press would have us believe.
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chappers
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My bike already has a Big Bang engine anyway 60deg V twin naturaly Big Bang. 
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FastBikerBoy
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Seems like an attempt to re establish 1980s pricing;- I suggest we all stay away in droves, keep what we already have, there is, after all, little difference between bikes year on year, despite what the manufacturers and the press would have us believe.
+1. I've already jumped from the new-bike-every-3-years syndrome 2 years ago. I have an '05 ZX10-R and was looking to change 2 years ago but I can't say anything has really took my fancy.
I tend to buy on looks as much as anything. May sound vain but for what I use a bike for the fact that one may produce 3 bhp more, handle slightly better at 9/10ths, be 0.3 secs faster getting to 60 mph, or do 185 as opposed to 180 is quite irrelevant.
Insurance gets much cheaper once it's a few years old as well. Only fly in the ointment is I've just been quoted £470 for it's 15000 miles service. Ouch. 
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Biggles
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I was thinking of swapping (I love R1's) but will wait till next year, as I couldn't find a dealer who would give me a test ride *and* actually had one to flog me.
This years R1 is the must have toy according to alot of the journo's, but I want to feel for myself it on the road first. I found 10 grand was pushing it. 11 it goes into exotic bike country, that is a price barrier I am not going to go over, particularly as the first thing I would do is junk the zorst.
My dosh may well find it's way onto my olde bike, or a second one 
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Osvaldo46
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Everybody who has purchased the 09 R1 from my local dealer (16 sold) has done so without a test ride, myself included. Not an ounce of disappointment involved in hindsight. There are one or two dealers on ebay still punting the bike at the £9999 price, might be worth a look. But if I were you, I'd forget about the test ride, just go and buy one, fantastic piece of kit.
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chappers
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I'm with Biggles never buy a bike without a test ride, no matter how good mags and other riders say it is.
Biggles I'll see if a local shop has a demo on Tuesday.
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Osvaldo46
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They are sold before they hit the shops, hence no demo's in this case. There is a shortage of this model so dealers won't lose money laying on demo's.
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chappers
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I really can't understand how anybody could spent £10k on a motorcycle they haven't ridden yet. I think the Motorcycle industry is unique in that, my mother in law recently bought a brand new car, she got a test drive.
I'm thinking Yamaha will very soon find demonstrators as soon as the "inital rush" dies down.
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monkiboi
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I agree with you Chappers. I wanted a ZX6R, due to the 0% finance and low cost but couldn't get on with it so bought the more expensive Suzuki. I'd never buy without a test ride.
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Osvaldo46
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That's the whole point Chappers.....at this stage, they don't have to. So they won't. As near as dammit 'out of the crate' R1's are winning BSB and WSB races, job done as far as selling the things is concerned. The same thing happened with the K6 GSXR1000 at the time of launch, rave reviews, scarce in dealers, races won, market created. Job done.
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xxrider
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As near as dammit 'out of the crate' R1's are winning BSB and WSB races, job done as far as selling the things is concerned. The same thing happened with the K6 GSXR1000 at the time of launch, rave reviews, scarce in dealers, races won, market created. Job done.
My God, is the average biker really that shallow?
I suppose, given the sales figures, the answer is yes, we are. I've never, ever bought something that I didn't ride first. Sure, I read the write ups and watch the races, and before I began my love affair with hypers, there was a time when I just HAD to have an RD500, GSXR750, FZR750, Fireblade, 918, etc. I rode them all at some point in the distant past, and bought none of them! I'm buggered if I'm going to put up with sore wrists, back, neck, arse etc just so that I can tell everyone I've got the latest must have, and it has 5 bhp more than yours.....
I ride every day, and I want a bike that fits. And if that means unfashionable, who cares?
New R1? No thanks. Not until it's A. cheaper, and B. available to test ride.
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chappers
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That's the whole point Chappers.....at this stage, they don't have to. So they won't. As near as dammit 'out of the crate' R1's are winning BSB and WSB races, job done as far as selling the things is concerned. The same thing happened with the K6 GSXR1000 at the time of launch, rave reviews, scarce in dealers, races won, market created. Job done.
I'm not saying anything in repy. 
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Edited by chappers (04/05/2009 11:21)
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Osvaldo46
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The point is, the people buying the current bike, in most cases, owned the older model or similar sports orientated machine. So, sore wrists, neck, etc are not an issue, most 'sit-up' riders will continue on sit-up bikes,likewise sportsbike riders will continue to 'suffer' the relative discomfort and stick to what they prefer. I think the point has been missed here, each to their own - but for the average rider, one sportsbike it very much like another bar minute differences which we cannot use at our level of riding, so - is a test ride that important unless you are changing bike styles radically? I doubt it. Harley owners are not going to buy an R1.
Bikers, by definition, are fairly shallow. The sales figures back it up as you say.
It's why the profile of Yamaha changed dramatically in 2004. It's also why Hayden currently rides a Ducati, one word - marketing, it appears to work.
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chappers
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It's why the profile of Yamaha changed dramatically in 2004. It's also why Hayden currently rides a Ducati, one word - marketing, it appears to work.
On some Osvaldo46 it clearly does work.
I've been lucky enough to have ridden most of the liter sportsbikes, that's all models of R1 from 98-04 an early GSXR100 all 3 incarnations of ZX10r, 04/5 CBR, 999 and RSVR and can assure you that the differences are blatantly obvious, unless of course boasting about the latest gadget down the pub or checking yourself out in shop windows is paramount.
I seem to recall that Biggles a life long R1 fan had his heart set on a an 07 R1 untill he rode it and found it didn't live up to his expectaions so bought a GSXR instead.
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but for the average rider, one sportsbike it very much like another bar minute differences which we cannot use at our level of riding
So why bother buying the latest XYZ1000 and not stick to the last liter bike you had or even buy a bike you can get more out of like a 600. 
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Osvaldo46
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I thought you'd decided to keep schtum, shame. I am in the fortunate position to have the resourses to buy what I want, when I want. If I buy a bike and go off it, I move it on. Simple.
This started off as a simple price rise warning to anybody who wanted to listen, if it reached it's target audience in one case, good. They have benefitted by a grand. End of. Bored.
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chappers
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I had deciuded to keep "stum" but I felt the need to reply to your next post.
Bored now eh, Ok if you say so.
I've just realised I didn't post something that struck a bit of a raw nerve did I? I do apologize if I posted something that upset you.
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Edited by chappers (04/05/2009 20:07)
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shinybusa
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I am in the fortunate position to have the resourses to buy what I want, when I want. If I buy a bike and go off it, I move it on. Simple.
This started off as a simple price rise warning to anybody who wanted to listen, if it reached it's target audience in one case, good. They have benefitted by a grand.
Fair enough.......nice one Osvaldo....I wish I had that sort of cash...  (no sarcasm intended)..I can't afford to change my bike at will.....but it was a good post to put up for people who were thinking of getting an 09 R1......
I have a 2000 W reg Hayabusa.....unrestricted.......best bike EVER.......not to everyone's taste looks wise....
All day comfy , faster than ANYTHING ELSE legally on the road.......3rd gear 5000 rev's and the wife will smile ALL DAY LONG. 
WHO THE FUCK NEEDS A RAMPANT RABBIT....Buy a Busa.....
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leigh49
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Does it vibrate that much then?
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Biggles
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...Biggles I'll see if a local shop has a demo on Tuesday.
Thank you.
(and you remember correctly)
I saw Bob Collins (slightly the worse for wear) at Brands BSB qualifying, he said he has bought one that has yet to arrive, but he has since ridden one, loves the sound but found it a tad boring on the road (!) and might well sell it as soon as it arrives (!!). He prefers his GSXR, but then he did get a national title on one.
I am more or less set on improving my current mount instead, and maybe buying another bike with the change left over.
But do want a test ride, I love R1s.
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