shinybusa
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Haven't heard it put this way before, but it's a great analogy.
I bought a bird feeder. I hung it on my back patio and filled it lovingly with seed. Within a week we had hundreds of birds taking advantage of the continuous flow of free and easily accessible food.
But then the birds started building nests in the boards of the patio, above the table, and next to the barbecue.
Then came the shit... It was everywhere: on the patio tile, the chairs, the table...everywhere!
Then some of the birds turned mean. They would dive bomb me and try to peck me even though I had fed them out of my own pocket.
And other birds were boisterous and loud. They sat on the feeder and squawked and screamed at all hours of the day and night and demanded that I fill it when it got low on food.
After a while, I couldn't even sit in my own back garden anymore. So I took down the bird feeder and in three days the birds were gone. I cleaned up their mess and took down the many nests they had built all over the patio.
Soon, the back yard was like it used to be ..... quiet, serene and no one demanding their rights to a free meal.
Now let's see..... our government gives out free food,
subsidized housing, free medical care, and free education and allows anyone born here to be an automatic citizen.
Then the illegal's came by the tens of thousands.
Suddenly our taxes went up to pay for free services; small apartments are housing 5 families; you have to wait 6 hours to be seen by an emergency room doctor; your child's
2nd grade class is behind other schools because over half the class doesn't speak English.
Corn Flakes now come in a bilingual box; I have to 'press
one' to hear my bank talk to me in English, and people waving flags other than the our Flag are squawking and screaming in the streets, demanding more rights and free liberties.
Just my opinion, but maybe it's time for the government to take down the bird feeder.
If you agree, pass it on; if not, continue cleaning up the shit
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kneedowndave
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100% take down the feeder!
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Biggles
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oh dear, oh dear, a great analogy of what?
Might make more sense if it said we were all birds. then you could say that 80% of the birds are starving, while 20% of the birds have more food than they know what to do with.
Plus of that 20%, 12% created so much pollution, used up so much natural resources that the poorest 80% water supplies start drying up to add to the lack of food and create a new phenomina called global warming.
Just to make it perfect, the 20% also are the richest and demand ever cheaper goods (inc food) and through power of trade an arms get the poorest 80% to make it and add pollution (shit) to *their* own backyard that often kills them or sends them to an early grave.
Should we be so smug about our bird feeders?
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makka
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+100000000 there Mr B.
Voted National Front did you boys?
What a crock, of simplistic racist crap.
You are clearly a Sun reader and utterly brainwashed by your corporate slavemasters.
And you can also add that the top 3% that have 70% of the food can afford to live where there is no crap build up in air conditioned, filtered and gated nests that keep the hungry, poisoned, and desperate 80% out so they don't give a FUCK about what they are doing to the planet.
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shinybusa
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+100000000 there Mr B.
Voted National Front did you boys?
What a crock, of simplistic racist crap.
You are clearly a Sun reader and utterly brainwashed by your corporate slavemasters.
And you can also add that the top 3% that have 70% of the food can afford to live where there is no crap build up in air conditioned, filtered and gated nests that keep the hungry, poisoned, and desperate 80% out so they don't give a FUCK about what they are doing to the planet.
Don't bite my head off .........I put it up as a point to what is so fucking wrong!!!!!!!
We are all human.....if a Black guy from eritrea pulled up on an APRILIA would you look upon him as Black..or as a Biker....
Beauty is skin deep...so is colour.....Culture........that's a bit deeper. 
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kneedowndave
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I have always been a Blue as far as voting is concerned.
No matter how many % have and have not I thought it struck a nerve for the situation in this country at present.
What would happen if we took all the money spent(and generated by)the good old speed camera and spent it on the prevention of illegal immigrants? Would that make me racist or a Sun reader?
Maybee I should move to Australia, settle in a town with Aborigonies which used to roam for miles in a land free of the "White" man
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makka
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If you're gonna use it at least learn how to spell it.
Funnily enough I've just finished reading a book called "Secret Country" by John Pilger which has an entire section on the genocidal treatment of the Aboriginals by the English settlers.
Some of us have moved on since then.
Clearly some haven't.
Yes the criminals were the troops but it was organised by (mostly) the second sons of the English gentry who came out here 'cos they had no prospects in the UK. So it was the same old robber baron families doing it out here that did it back there.
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FastBikerBoy
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I have no problem with 'foreigners', Christ I'm married to one, but I do get pissed off when the 'asylum' seeker has come through 6 different countries to get here. Any one of which they could have got 'asylum' in.
Welcome to the streets of gold and easy street........
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shinybusa
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, but I do get pissed off when the 'asylum' seeker has come through 6 different countries to get here. Any one of which they could have got 'asylum' in.
Welcome to the streets of gold and easy street........
I served in KOSOVO in 1999.....BOMB DISPOSAL...minefield and grave clearance essentially........ 
So many of them bastards are over here claiming.......I made THEIR country safe......... 
THEY ARE PARASITES.......
There own country is safe and it is getting rebuilt..the scum coming over is the criminal element..... 
We need to implement savagely hard rules !!!
When pubs in WALES PUT UP SIGNS..."POLISH SPEAKERS ONLY".......WTF.........
And we thought you bloody English were the problem...
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immy
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, but I do get pissed off when the 'asylum' seeker has come through 6 different countries to get here. Any one of which they could have got 'asylum' in.
Welcome to the streets of gold and easy street........
When pubs in WALES PUT UP SIGNS..."POLISH SPEAKERS ONLY".......WTF.........
No-you mis-read it.It said "Polished speakers" only-you have to talk proper
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kneedowndave
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Those that have "moved on" to a global understanding of economic and social situations, I take my hat off to you!You should be in power somewhere, preaching to the masses instead of wasting your talents on the mere motorcyclist.
Please pitty me me for my blinkered,uninformed attitude and views toward whomever I decide is to blame at the time.
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xxrider
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What would happen if we took all the money spent(and generated by)the good old speed camera and spent it on the prevention of illegal immigrants? Would that make me racist or a Sun reader?
Sorry, Dave.
I usually stay completely away from most of the political arguements on this (and other) forum. But I just can't hold my tongue any longer.
Your quote is the biggest crock I've read.
I've heard this argument over and over, from the kind of people who measure all Govt spending on anything in terms of "how many hospitals would that have bought?".
Why do you want to prevent immigration? How would you spend money on preventing illegals? Would it surprise you to know that illegal immigration is a far smaller problem than the tabloid press would have you believe?
Or that our Govt currently spends MORE on home grown, British scroungers than it does on so called asylum seekers?
So called "analogies" like the one Shiny has reproduced here pop up regularly on the e-mail grapevine, and they all, without fail, make me sick. I'm ashamed that there are folk in this country who write, read and honestly believe this kind of "little Englander" crap.
There, I've kept that little rant bottled up for bloody ages!
I feel so much better now. I'm off to bed.
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kneedowndave
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Would it surprise you to know that illegal immigration is a far smaller problem than the tabloid press would have you believe?
Where did you come by this information?
Or that our Govt currently spends MORE on home grown, British scroungers than it does on so called asylum seekers?
And so it should! Of course there are going to be English scroungers but that does not mean we should have to pay for every other scrounger that breaches our borders.
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shinybusa
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XX, some of the immigrants who come here are geniunely fleeing persecution...these are the one's who will go out and find work and contribute to this country...
Some however, generally the Criminal Element, come to this country....not to work but, as Economic Migrants..out to make as much money as possible by hook or by crook!!!
This Gov't pisses me off...people who have risked their lives for this country...Ghurkha's for example are told to bugger off back to Nepal...yet nothing is done about All the illegals..???
Bring back National Service......anyone between the age of 18 -21 who is not in full time employment or full time education goes into the Armed Forces..Obviously if someone is a pacifist or there are religios grounds..(Buddhists for example) then something along the German idea can be done...they work in the community as care workers etc..
It would stop a lot of immigrants..and it would give the "live off the social culture" in this country a right kick up the arse....it may just give some of the young layabouts the knowledge that there is more to life than hanging around street corners!!!
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makka
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And as long as there are people who have this unpleasant bigoted view of their fellow men our society will remain a fucked up mess.
You call them scroungers.
I recall many decades ago that we were talking about how humans in an advanced society would be down to a three day week.
What happened to that? Corporatocracy and it's slave mentality of which you are a perfect example of how their propaganda keeps us divided and conquered.
I really recommend that you watch the movie "Zietgeist" and then Zietgiest Addendum" on U-tube or Google Video. If your mind isn't as closed as it appears to be you may learn something useful.
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It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.
J. Krishnamurti
Never confuse who you are with what you do.
Makka
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kneedowndave
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Zietgeist  I recommend you watch "Home and away" at least it is from the same planet 
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makka
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Apparently we live on different planets.
But then it has been said that your environment reflects back to you your own mental attitudes 
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makka
It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.
J. Krishnamurti
Never confuse who you are with what you do.
Makka
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