Biggles
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I have been waiting well over two months for a pair of Carbon Dymags only to be told after many excuses their autoclave oven is broken and they cannot give a reliable date for it's repair-let alone resumed production. Prior to this they were having "trouble" with their foundry so I could not get hold of their best selling Mags either.
Given their established reputation for being a touch on the tardy side for delivery (ask any of their official suppliers) this may be true, but I am wondering if it might be like all those high street shops who close for "redecoration" but who are really going tits up.
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Handley
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Speak with HPS as they are an official Dymag retailer.
They may know more?
0845 873 8256, ask to speak to the main man Giles Harwood if you can as he is really helpful.
although he may try and sell you BST carbon wheels as they are better and cheaper!
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chappers
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BST carbon wheels as they are better and cheaper!
To quote meatloaf "You took the words right out of my mouth."
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Biggles
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Yes thank you I will - good to have a name too.
Looking now on price, they were more or less the same (with Dymag being about £200 cheaper), also I got a bit of an "all in" package with PDQ that would have helped still further.
Good to know they are better quality than Dymag as the set I saw from them were superb.
I think the wait on BST is going to be quite a long wait unless I get lucky and they have some in stock-that alone may make me go for Galespeed mags instead.
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BigHam
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Go Marchesini. Om nom nom.
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Biggles
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Yeh that was where I started, until I went into the detail.
With Marchinessi, their actual weight is more or less the same as my stock ones-in theory they *should* have less rim weight (therefore less gyro effect), but I was not convinced the difference was worth the tarif.
They also use a standard wheel and adapt it with spacers to pad out to fit different bikes width and sprocket alignment. Lastly I met a couple of peeps who said don't touch 'em for various (hearsay) reasons of quality/fit/finish.
I must admit I got seduced by picking up a rear carbon wheel with just a couple of fingers. Carbon makes mag feel heavy!
I do like the look of BST but their lead times are long too, Galespeed will be two months as well.
I have heard today that Dymag are "saying" they will be back in production next week - but there have been a great many "next weeks". Apparently their foundry is now working again. My stupid fault for opting to support a British company rather than South African/Japaneses in the first place.
TBH I am getting cold feet over the whole saga.
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fastjonny
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I have heard today that Dymag are "saying" they will be back in production next week - but there have been a great many "next weeks". Apparently their foundry is now working again.
I have it on very good authority that indeed it is! And I've just heard that they're going into production with a revolutionary new carbon (based) hoop which is going to take machine handling characteristics to the next level.
Get yourself a pair of these babies, Biggles......
Free 5 litres of Cuprinol with first 100 orders. 
*Edit* Apparently they aren't exactly new. First discovered as OEM on the '98 R1. 
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Biggles
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16 spokers - so on-trend. You are a far sighted man, I can see WSB teams stopping me and making offers for them. Plus I will be able to carve my name in them too for extra security and decoration.
In the mean time, or rather a large chunk of animated telephone time, I have got my grubbies on a set of BST's more traditional versions. 
The front is in the UK the rear lands tomorrow at Heathrow -thence PDQ via HPS-maybe. We shall see.
Thanks Handley, Giles indeed was very helpful and proportionately diplomatic about the future (or lack of it) for Dymag.
Now must be off to root out some sand paper and a chisel.
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Handley
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Good work, glad to be of assistance.
I had some BST's on my GSX-R longtermer a few years back and they were ace. Look better than anything else and surprisingly totally changed the feel of the bike in a good way!
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Biggles
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Cheers. It's that last sentence that I am hoping for, because my wallet is having panic attacks
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Biggles
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Good work, glad to be of assistance.
I had some BST's on my GSX-R longtermer a few years back and they were ace. Look better than anything else and surprisingly totally changed the feel of the bike in a good way!
You were right. They are superb. I knew the theory about quicker turning faster acceleration and braking but in practice they also seem to make our uk roads seem less bumpy. I presume because the suspension does not have to work as hard. Only done 300 miles on them but they feel fantastic.
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morepower
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There have been a few rumours regarding Dymag and even one of the guys who works there has got to the point where he is trying to get customers to vent their frustrations on the MD not him as he has been left to deal with customer calls... I had to wait twice as long for a customer order and there were several reasons why they were late....but it seems the magnesium parts have been an issue and got to the point where I offered to get them a magnesium billet to finish my order off! They did do them after that but I was told by another official Dymag dealer that cast magnesium wheels would possibly be up to a year if they get done at all....... I was only interested in carbon and their forged wheels and was told that they will still always quote 5 or 6 weeks but the actual time scale is more of throw a dart at a full year calender blind folded and then add 5 or 6 weeks.
It has now got to the point where I have been looking at a supplier who has the capability to make wheels and my make them for me after we get them tested and approved.....
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Biggles
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Such a shame. I gather Dymag are sponsored by a very wealthy backer- who presumably does not know (or even cares) what is gong on.
I got lucky with my BST order (less than 2 weeks), they were being fitted when the Dymags arrived. Interestingly they both weighed the same and looking at the visual quality and shape I think I still preferred the look of the Dymag carbon.
I don't see how Dymag can survive without customers, they really are doing there best to lose 'em.
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